20 Years of TRAUMATICA: Marc Terenzi on Horror, Friendship and Second Chances

00:00:02: The actors, the people who came here and worked with us.

00:00:05: And we're in these houses night after night scaring people.

00:00:07: stuff really loved what they did so everybody was involved In this event.

00:00:11: So then they felt like They were a part of their story.

00:00:14: you have to imagine being Here on the streets in This cold is scaring People all night.

00:00:18: it's not Not the easiest thing To do but now people love doing It as if it's the people come here Give up Their whole vacation to Come here be an actor.

00:00:25: and this Thing Traumatic has gotten to the point that We've always wanted.

00:00:39: Good evening and welcome everyone.

00:00:41: This year is a very special year for us here in Ruse.

00:00:45: Terenzi Horror Nights in Traumatica are celebrating their twentieth anniversary, twenty years of fogs, green monsters...and shadows!

00:00:54: And honestly…a lot of laughter and craziness behind the scenes And there's no one.

00:00:59: I'd rather look back on these twenty years with than my guest today.

00:01:04: He is a singer, songwriter and entertainer and good friend.

00:01:07: he made his name with the boy band Natural went onto solo career that has been in spotlight Germany for many years.

00:01:15: For us it becomes real part of our horror family.

00:01:19: Please welcome Mike Turenzi.

00:01:20: Hey

00:01:21: what's up?

00:01:22: It was nice to be here

00:01:24: Mike, great to have you back here at the Studio seventy-eight and today we want to take You on a little journey Back where it all started through The crazy moment of the past twenty years.

00:01:35: And maybe A small look into the future Of horror At Europa Pike but not only at Europa pike But also for twenty one twelve studios.

00:01:43: so grab a set turn off.

00:01:44: The lights and if your dare Let's get started

00:01:46: let's go I'm ready.

00:01:48: well We're sitting Here in the French Alley I'm looking over at the Abistro Tommy Ongora and just like a couple of meters away from here.

00:01:58: The craziness all started.

00:01:59: if you go back to many years, can you recall yourself?

00:02:03: What was your first touch with the Europa Park?

00:02:05: Well how did he end it up?

00:02:07: How do they

00:02:08: end up here?

00:02:08: I gotta be honest...I came to Europe park Many times in the past.

00:02:12: obviously i love this park.

00:02:14: This is um..i've always said that To many people-this my favorite park In the world Coming from me i think is a big thing.

00:02:21: I grew up and you know, it's been a lot of time in orlando was around all the big parks university studios disney?

00:02:26: And i love this amusement park culture.

00:02:30: One thing that That makes this park different for me Was just such a great experience to be an.

00:02:35: it's just easy To be in this park especially if you have children because they can tell ya In other parks its very stressful.

00:02:43: Children in the other parks where they're trying to sell you something every five minutes and okay, here's a street party.

00:02:47: Here's this.

00:02:47: The kids are tired after an hour of being there park They want to go home?

00:02:50: And here in this Park You have moments Where you just you know relaxed.

00:02:54: I could get away from the whole amusement park feeling and go over To the castle instead on the grass.

00:02:58: for my kids.

00:02:58: they Have a break and it Just feels great to be here.

00:03:02: and i love This park.

00:03:03: i love all the theming here.

00:03:05: i don't know There's Something different magical about this park and i think you feel In this park that you guys Are here all the time.

00:03:10: the family is here in his park.

00:03:11: i think he can Feel It Comfortable to be here easy-to-get around.

00:03:15: and yeah fell in love with this park the first time I came here And of course for me, I loved thrill seeking.

00:03:20: so i'll have their roller coasters and rides Yeah, and I don't know.

00:03:25: I Love this park?

00:03:26: I think it's one of the best parks on world for me definitely my number one.

00:03:29: So now we're talking about Europa pike but um But I think that is really interesting For the listeners To Know.

00:03:36: Well everybody a lot Of people do love Europe apart.

00:03:39: yes today We're Talking About Traumatic Horror.

00:03:42: I mean How did this crazy fucking thing, that this monster came into his bike?

00:03:47: Yeah.

00:03:49: This was a great situation.

00:03:51: I know we've met each other before and then again We're sitting talking in the bar here upstairs.

00:03:58: I think Sarah is at hotel Then she's pregnant with our second child No one supposed to know about it And i think were late on the bar Talking about different things.

00:04:08: One of the things ive always wanted do because ive come from This horror life.

00:04:13: i worked in haunted houses and I started by when i was young.

00:04:17: I loved horror films, i love this feeling of watching a horror film And getting scared.

00:04:21: you know at home there's a great feeling.

00:04:23: and um i started.

00:04:24: i started actually doing makeup When i was really young trying to make makeup like freddy kruger Like these?

00:04:29: I just love this.

00:04:30: this horror makeup watching michael jackson thriller and stuff like this Was really something that somehow had I don't know.

00:04:36: In my life, i really wanted to be in horror somehow and later on... ...I ended up going to Orlando being a part of Haunted House with Bill McCoy this Skull Kingdom And working in this haunted house.

00:04:49: experience for me was amazing.

00:04:50: It's like addicting you know.

00:04:51: scare people to run around the house play characters Be someone else!

00:04:55: And uh.. I used to work there all the time.

00:04:56: I loved it.

00:04:58: When I came to Europe- I didn't see too many of these kind of haunted houses anywhere You know, and in Orlando was a year round haunted house that I was working.

00:05:07: And-and...I came here.

00:05:09: this kind of horror experience or these horrible things is normal in America Was not here!

00:05:14: And i remember sitting with you talking to me saying hey How can we bring some sort of horror into the theme park?

00:05:20: This idea to bring a horror event A horror idea haunted house somewhere over Europe In an American style where we can bring the horror, or characters and make this kind of horror experience.

00:05:34: And I thought you have this park?

00:05:35: You've got an amazing location here!

00:05:38: There must be a way that we could bring this American extreme horror over to Europe... To your Park.

00:05:47: If you go back and try to explain the feelings.. You've been talking about The Theme Park which is great for kids taking some time out sitting at the castle relaxing not getting oversawed by offers And now I mean, a perfectly picture of myself and remember my self being in that situation.

00:06:06: Let's say crazy American who loves horror comes into family theme park.

00:06:11: and obviously you know me dad Roland.

00:06:14: let us know the feelings back then.

00:06:16: well it was not as obvious.

00:06:19: many people think no there is- It wasn't

00:06:20: obvious how many people thing.

00:06:21: of course this is a family amusement park and of course ideas are very different than hard to grasp.

00:06:28: But my thought in this park is, you know what?

00:06:30: In the evenings when that-when the sun goes down and I see parks maybe differently When the Sun Goes Down it kind of reminds me of Halloween in America.

00:06:37: You Know It gets a little bit colder The streets get A Little Bit Darker And Stuff.

00:06:40: And i just could See Here All These Little Corners And These Pieces.

00:06:44: Okay Horror Would Fit Technically.

00:06:46: So In These Little At The Evening In Here Is Far Away From An Amusement Park Or Family Run Amusement park The Idea Of Horror.

00:06:55: I didn't think so because what you have here is exactly kind of the people that we wanted to get to and That was the people who are riding roller coasters Horror, it's actually just a thrill.

00:07:05: It's a thrill like getting on a roller coaster You're gonna roll cause he had this feeling you know?

00:07:08: He go over the hill And again in your stomach ends and you're kind of scared for awhile.

00:07:12: its safe Your scared but it's a thrilled.

00:07:15: and i thought Exactly these people were riding rollercoaster.

00:07:18: you haven't hear anyway These are thrill seekers.

00:07:20: This would fit group of people, the people who go on a roller coaster whether it's being scared in a rollercoaster or whether they're being scared by someone scaring them in costume.

00:07:30: It is actually this same kind of thrill.

00:07:33: and I said exactly those people are in your park.

00:07:36: why not give them that horror experience which was similar to a roller coasters but just different theming?

00:07:42: In my mind,

00:07:43: so what do you think back then?

00:07:45: What was the most convincing point to me dad when he remembered.

00:07:49: The days where we were negotiating and talking together?

00:07:52: I mean obviously everybody saw us being a good looking great singer.

00:07:59: Nobody like.

00:08:00: Oh, he has a horror background which was new to me back then as well.

00:08:03: What do you think?

00:08:03: what's the most convincing part?

00:08:05: I think

00:08:06: it is difficult to convince anybody of horror in general coming into park and saying hey i got this idea of horror make-ups that sound crazy because if we have an experience where people wouldn't know exactly what it means for them kind of got the first ball rolling with your dad because we talked about this horror idea and he was like, yeah great sounds great.

00:08:29: He had no idea what were talking about it.

00:08:31: I remember then you set out to make a couple movies some short films And i said let's show him kind of shocking.

00:08:37: so a shocking experience.

00:08:38: on films With a horror theme Let's Make Some Short Films.

00:08:42: I think our short films are really over-the top Chainsaws running around, you hear heads rolling on the ground and kind of... And it was kinda shocking in a way.

00:08:52: People were like oh my god what am I looking at?

00:08:54: In exactly that feeling i remember going to a meeting with your dad and with a bunch people sitting around us showing him these videos and they were kinda shocked!

00:09:07: that the people watching these films were a little shocked.

00:09:19: And I was like, okay now we have something.

00:09:21: they were shocked at what they saw?

00:09:23: Okay Now We Can Build Off This Idea.

00:09:24: Okay You Were Shocked.

00:09:25: It Was Strange it was weird.

00:09:27: um this is i think The First Step In The Direction To Get People to Understand Okay I'm Watching Something That's...I Don't Know What'S Gonna Happen.

00:09:34: Um Is Thrilling Somehow Its Horror and I'm Kind Of Shocked By What I Just Saw And I Think That Was A First Piece Or Step At Least To Say OK There'S Something Behind This.

00:09:43: Now Let's Make This When You're Watching Happened For Real.

00:09:48: Well, we call that moment as well.

00:09:50: And I think what is really interesting to know for those who don't know Mark or the other side of mark and that was fascinating by a professionalism because most people Don't Know That you not only been a singer but even true entertainer by heart.

00:10:03: You were amazingly in editing?

00:10:06: But i mean We took everything we had kudos to young rife which would be have some amazing just got.

00:10:13: take him from The mcmedia department one Of our dup's who helped us making this dream come true.

00:10:18: We took André Rummenigge, the son of Karl-Heinz Rummeningge here at Bayern Munich football camp.

00:10:25: so we literally like it to my brother character.

00:10:28: you were also in a film.

00:10:29: I was in the film and my brother Thomas was in.

00:10:33: And somehow we made it happen that we convinced our dad to give us, I think ten thousand euro for the first year.

00:10:39: Yeah

00:10:39: something like this.

00:10:40: It was literally just a little tent and you've been really great help from the beginning as well.

00:10:46: remember a press conference being held not far away from here in the French section?

00:10:51: You were saying to the press... This is the biggest horror event in Germany!

00:10:55: Oh my God what is he selling to the

00:10:57: Press?!

00:10:57: We just have a tiny little house and he's telling us the biggest.

00:11:00: This

00:11:00: is the American way, you gotta fake it till make right?

00:11:03: Make people believe its'the biggest, best, greatest And they'll think that somehow You know this concept I get out of America.

00:11:09: Everythings the Best everythings the Biggest Everythings

00:11:11: The Greatest.

00:11:11: They've only been visionary because i think twenty years back we can really tell That were are the best now and the biggest?

00:11:18: Yeah Of course hundred percent.

00:11:19: Yeah, a hundred percent I think i mean...I remember also these movies and having Roman nigger in it stuff ...and we had talented people on the park that we could use.

00:11:28: That was another big piece of it.

00:11:30: Having this location, this calisthenum The possibility to shoot here is something other people don't have Worth to be able to use the talents out of this park and have people who believed in this project like yon Who said okay?

00:11:45: We're gonna.

00:11:45: he came in here with cameras And lighting, and we put fog in them.

00:11:49: In the lobbies of hotels I remember that the guests were like kind of like was our fog hotel.

00:11:53: But we made we created an atmosphere and a movie With a character That we said ok now we got to build the house around us This concept.

00:12:00: we had kind of look we had a feeling and that Was the beginning of this feeling Of hordes which actually Stayed pretty constant over the years after that to look in the feeling what we had found In this first movies.

00:12:12: can you still recall?

00:12:13: The first house.

00:12:14: Can he explain to the listeners What's a name, or was the story behind that?

00:12:19: maybe you can.

00:12:20: I recall the First House and i think We wanted To have like A concept That Was not too far away.

00:12:26: There Was Not Too Splatter You know too much horror.

00:12:30: I wanted a concept that was little bit more like Alfred Hitchcock, it's simple story about guy who had so many problems running hotel and ended up not being able to deal with all his problem in end of hanging himself at the hotel killing himself but didn't actually die and came back to life, uh...to take revenge on people who did him bad in the-in his life.

00:12:53: And, uh..came back and there's ghosts in this house!

00:12:55: There are other people from that

00:12:57: house.

00:12:57: And sisters

00:12:58: were also part of it?

00:12:59: Um...they also died and they're living in a haunted mansion idea which I think is something that can be grasped because someone died inside an hotel and somehow their ghost still exists.

00:13:11: pretty much everybody could understand, not too much horror but was enough to touch on a concept of ghosts in houses.

00:13:19: and something in America which I love is ghost hunters.

00:13:21: You know what?

00:13:22: I used to watch these Ghost Hunter TV shows going with their all-there radios that say okay there are ghosts here stuff!

00:13:28: And i used think... Is this

00:13:29: fake?!

00:13:29: Is it

00:13:29: real??

00:13:30: Is the stuff

00:13:30: happening???

00:13:31: I believe in

00:13:31: ghosts!!

00:13:32: And I believe those kind

00:13:33: things!!!

00:13:35: You know, having ghost hunters you've seen a Ghostbusters the movie.

00:13:39: You're seeing stuff something that people can kind of identify with.

00:13:43: and so we ended up making this first house which had I don't know how many rooms?

00:13:47: i think like thirteen rooms Yeah And it was telling the story Of This character Being somewhere in this House.

00:13:54: Ghost Hunters then for The First Time Opening A House to the general public is saying let's go in To see if We Can Find These Ghosts.

00:14:00: That Was The Basic Idea For The Story in our first house having these guides, these ghost hunters who would lead you through the idea of going to a haunted house.

00:14:09: We didn't just send people into a house and say okay go by room and figure out what goes on now.

00:14:14: we were sending them with people Into the House Who kind of guided them Through this experience.

00:14:19: Actors who will then bring You from room-to-room which was A great experience.

00:14:23: And things Would happen In These rooms.

00:14:24: there'll be lines.

00:14:25: they Will Say Things Stuff What Happened.

00:14:27: They'd Be Standing There For Two and Half Minutes When Things Were happening.

00:14:29: Sounds Would Happen All of a sudden.

00:14:30: You See The Main Character I'm from hell's in, um.

00:14:34: and you would then at some point lose the ghost hunter he will take to go center out than your on-your own just like a movie.

00:14:40: You know watching a movie have liked that character who knows everything.

00:14:43: somehow he gets killed an end year on your own.

00:14:45: it now is way more worse than was before so making this kind of moving happening real life with really fun experience.

00:14:52: And then you had to go with your group and try to get out of this, this haunted hotel.

00:14:57: we put victims in the groups girls who would walk up.

00:14:59: I don't know what my group is.

00:15:01: maybe if he can help me?

00:15:02: We could kill them In front everybody To the point that people ended up calling The police thinking it was real where they take the actors Out Of House at these moments.

00:15:12: when first started This house mean you were Actors inside the house.

00:15:15: no idea If any of this will work.

00:15:17: It Ended Up Actually Really working really well, but me and you were in there every day.

00:15:22: What can we change?

00:15:23: what Can We make better?

00:15:23: that was a cool thing.

00:15:25: I think the success behind this event in general Was the fact of me.

00:15:28: You knew where they're enabled to change from one hour To The next things That didn't work.

00:15:33: And Make them Work or Try something different.

00:15:34: it was we Were allowed Allowed with you.

00:15:37: you Allowed us all uh to just try Things and say okay This doesn't work let's Change It.

00:15:42: And being able to change it on the fly in the beginning was The way that we figured out the audience and figure out what they liked, you know We're able to really give them things.

00:15:50: That would make them scared and have this thrilling experience.

00:15:52: and then at the end Um the first year I remember just hoping people would come.

00:15:57: we remember shutting down This street right here in front?

00:16:00: This is where it was a spring back.

00:16:01: so many memories for me putting fog In here delighting the feeling as it got colder stuff with the perfect atmosphere for this.

00:16:08: It just works so well.

00:16:09: I have like a goosebumps thinking about it and i remember we shut the street off when We put characters in the street that people would walk by So they would see what's going on over there?

00:16:16: They had no idea What were doing.

00:16:18: but then we're like oh, they saw these characters as makeups.

00:16:21: okay Let me check this thing out.

00:16:22: There was kind of like a promotion idea.

00:16:24: And um and I remember thinking I think after The first couple days thinking yeah ok This is gonna work.

00:16:31: people are being horrified walking through this experience.

00:16:34: And the best part about it all is they were going with their friends, being completely horrified crying in a house screaming at us but then you see them come out of exit and there like laughing with your friend on street.

00:16:43: I thought we got an idea that's spectacular.

00:16:48: convincing dad to do was very difficult because he knows what works something different than his done.

00:16:59: coming into the house and seeing what we were doing, I think he understood it a little bit more.

00:17:03: Getting to that point of building the house in making it all happen...I don't know how you did that?

00:17:08: I gotta be honest

00:17:09: with you!

00:17:11: It was a family affair i guess..i still remember when you talked about the story The Bellevue In The Hell's End where we had your cousins over.... I mean man there was a wild time..... I recall myself being first night.

00:17:26: we actually opened And you've been the master of entertainment.

00:17:29: You're in a phase off the event, and then always up on the street running around them they call me the German capacity machine because I was sitting behind video screens all night trying to get the throughput going.

00:17:41: yeah

00:17:41: The groups go through that way.

00:17:42: everybody got through it at good amount of time.

00:17:44: we were like Yeah!

00:17:45: We don't care if want their show be great.

00:17:46: Do

00:17:47: remember when just about open?

00:17:49: We had terrible fight In the hallway.

00:17:51: You have to imagine this was like my baby.

00:17:54: we I think We helped build a house, i mean back then?

00:17:57: We were in there building with them.

00:17:58: i mean you knew where Building putting stuff up.

00:18:00: i was dumpster diving find out whatever i could Putting it on The wall.

00:18:03: My cousins Were building Stuff and till the last minute i Think We're Working Around the Clock.

00:18:07: And that Was Painting Stuff Taping stuff to the wall.

00:18:10: It didn't matter and of course me being The person I am, i want it To be a hundred percent ready you know And You Being A Person Who Understands?

00:18:17: You Know Capacity People in Your Audience Was Like We got an Open and Get people through the house and I was like it's not all perfect Not all per completely Perfectly.

00:18:24: well we'll get going on the way.

00:18:25: people will notice that.

00:18:27: That Corner Of The Room In On The Floor you know they don't Notice These Things.

00:18:31: yeah and Yeah Actually Ended Up Opening.

00:18:33: Well, we were been fighting.

00:18:35: Oh no!

00:18:35: We're fighting directly before.

00:18:36: I mean actually the door was closed and there were like eight hundred a thousand people standing in front of the door.

00:18:42: And why would they are fighting to each other?

00:18:44: Me saying open the door You said leave the doors shut because

00:18:48: it's

00:18:48: not perfect.

00:18:49: It wasn't opening yet But waiting...and i remember that my dad just was on the other side of your door.

00:18:54: He just opened The door.

00:18:55: he is like yeah open

00:18:57: come on

00:18:59: in.

00:18:59: I remember fighting and the people thought like oh, this is a nice start of evening.

00:19:03: They thought it

00:19:04: was part of my show.

00:19:07: So um i mean Yeah He opened.

00:19:09: he open the doors And then people came through and some things you know work something's didn't work but The overall Experience started.

00:19:17: for us that was the day It really started in?

00:19:21: In doing That an opening the door having to People come Through when it's not Really A hundred percent ready we were able to really quickly see what worked and what didn't, you know with the audience.

00:19:30: We saw people walking through...we were in the house but there's a great moment when some of the stuff that we thought might not work worked really well.

00:19:39: so those cool things that worked then okay do more this..okay this didn't work take it out.

00:19:45: But It was cool to see some other stuff than planned working really well.

00:19:48: And That Was A Moment When I Was Like Alright!

00:19:51: We Got Something.

00:19:51: This Is Really Amazing You Know?

00:19:53: Thats When We Said Okay!

00:19:54: We Can Do Something With This.

00:19:56: Yeah, it was a beautiful time and I am really thankful that you kind of... Well not convinced me but like put me over the brim to go on move in.

00:20:09: You've been pushing and pushing with great force That we had perfect combination between a great entertainer And let's say capacity or throughput machine at the other end.

00:20:22: Absolutely We did the V-Tjoy Making of the behind-the-scenes story, and I don't want to go what people can already discover in our making off.

00:20:35: So if you haven't seen it check out on Wejoy.

00:20:37: It's a really good story.

00:20:38: You're making off Traumatica lovely done TV series.

00:20:43: is there anything?

00:20:43: I mean obviously we grew we got bigger we went over to Italy we had a dike maze we opened up different rights in the Italian section.

00:20:52: We moved on then later to this new Traumatica place where there's more space, my area.

00:20:58: Is that anything which you'd love to tell the listeners?

00:21:03: Which was not a part of behind-the-scenes TV series?

00:21:08: what has been done is... Anything they missed at point.

00:21:13: I think big thing wasn't shown so much about behind the scenes with the actors.

00:21:19: We put a lot of time into, I remember making these sets building all these houses and us thinking okay we've done all that parts.

00:21:27: now The Actors in These Roles this is the show.

00:21:30: they are the stars!

00:21:39: of bringing this whole group and team together behind the scenes.

00:21:50: Me, you both from operation sides to our side I think back then which they don't sew so much in there we were like a family.

00:21:59: We did all these things together.

00:22:00: we pushed everybody involved with everyone talked every single person Every night to make sure everything was running.

00:22:06: and I think the heart of this event This group experience that everybody wanted be a part of this thing even behind The scenes, people kind of living for their house.

00:22:14: Even actors is what made it.

00:22:17: What today?

00:22:19: Actors who came here worked with us And we're in these houses night after night scaring people and stuff really loved what they did Got passionate about it.

00:22:28: And because of those Those big pieces even the people who were selling food out here were passionate about that.

00:22:32: The people who are you know security?

00:22:34: People inside everybody was involved in this event.

00:22:36: so then They felt like they were a part of their story, and I think that wasn't one.

00:22:40: A big driving force Of this working is that we had all these great people that we work with.

00:22:45: That was something i think there Was a huge piece of of all this Because You can Make the greatest event you can build a perfect house, but if he don't have those those great actors of us.

00:22:56: Those people who believe in it?

00:22:58: In their housing and around the events It wouldn't be as successful today.

00:23:02: I think that's such huge part off this story and getting them there And i mean we have to imagine being here on the streets in this cold and scaring people all night is not, it's not the easiest thing to do.

00:23:12: But now people love doing it!

00:23:13: It's a...it's....the people come here give up their whole vacation to be an actor or something that I loved as you know when i was first doing horror And we were able bring that experience here The same experiences that I went through.

00:23:26: We're able to get into other people.

00:23:28: That was cool.

00:23:29: Having you around Logistics person.

00:23:32: I remember giving you lists of things that wanted and you give me a list back.

00:23:35: You know, i want to hundred things you would give me this okay?

00:23:37: You have ten you know but we made it work And you gave me the possibility To really create and just try things out.

00:23:44: you know take a risk Try this try things.

00:23:46: uh i learned so much stuff here in The park from movie making two making houses and stuff and you Just allowed Me to be creative and That was something that A lot Of people don't probably understand the relationship between us, that you gave me the freedom to be as creative as I could.

00:23:58: And you were able to really help me put into a box and make it work.

00:24:02: Literally spoken with my mom and dad for this event.

00:24:06: I mean, I'm remembering that you brought Bill around and then you brought Benny Richter.

00:24:11: So we're like the founding fathers so to say.

00:24:15: You've been mommy or daddy?

00:24:16: And um... We had our children's in-name bill and uh...

00:24:22: The fact that Billy even said he would do this is great!

00:24:24: When i asked him at the beginning there was no chance for me get this guy because Bill was In my eyes one of best makeup artists ever seen in my life.

00:24:33: but when I talked with him I said, listen we did it in your you know.

00:24:37: We worked together before but i said i need the best and make up i said is not going to be.

00:24:41: You're not gonna Be a millionaire this year on this thing But it's a project that can become.

00:24:45: well he still suffering from that.

00:24:48: Exactly.

00:24:49: yeah That could be Your project?

00:24:51: Then you Can put your time And then do It The way that you want To and i think me saying okay come over and Do makeup.

00:24:56: the Way that you Want to do it your way i Think was the Thing that got him because i didn't Think we will be able to get someone on his caliber, you know?

00:25:03: And having him say yes and come here really.

00:25:05: Be passionate about this product.

00:25:06: You saw it before.

00:25:07: he was like doing crazy stuff trying stuff I've never even seen.

00:25:11: He invented the makeup style during The time To make the makeup so fast.

00:25:14: that Was a huge key That he said Yes in coming over Here but i'm telling you he wouldn't have Said yes if you didn't Have This amazing park here.

00:25:20: I mean,

00:25:22: he was the first time back then.

00:25:24: He was the person outside US and they didn't still get your career being a successful boy band singer when we came over here thought like you've been big celebrity in doing horror events.

00:25:37: so i'm not quite sure if it's just relationship to Making believe in it.

00:25:43: So

00:25:43: yeah, I get what you're saying But we got but we got him and then we've got Benny which was a huge part of this as well too i think A lot of people also.

00:25:49: hundred songs been written by two

00:25:50: hundred songs have been written And This is a huge Part of the experience.

00:25:54: at the beginning?

00:25:55: I told You that We need to make up for horror.

00:25:57: We needed a good Makeup person That makes this Different than anything else.

00:26:01: when he see people just put some makeup on their face He wanted us American Hollywood style makeup.

00:26:06: that Was really important In The sound the atmosphere in Horror.

00:26:10: there Is makeup There is, you know the makeup which has a thing.

00:26:14: then there's the thrills and there was music.

00:26:16: Which is a big part of it all.

00:26:18: And when you walk through these trees You hear this music.

00:26:20: It puts you into this feeling This atmosphere that without them The music would have been different experience I think.

00:26:26: So we're lucky to get These pieces together.

00:26:29: Um, I brought my cousins from universal over and there was great

00:26:33: help.

00:26:33: They were great though.

00:26:34: Yeah

00:26:37: But they were

00:26:37: the insanity what?

00:26:38: They would say yeah

00:26:40: have worked in stuff like this.

00:26:42: it Was good to have their experience over.

00:26:43: i took over jason.

00:26:44: i had people i had all these People out of

00:26:47: or lenon

00:26:48: damian who is amazing.

00:26:49: he's a great actor stuntman on hollywood and everything.

00:26:51: And uh He came over and for actors side of things he was For horror.

00:26:56: he's he is just the ultimate actor, you know?

00:27:00: He's one of greatest actors ever.

00:27:03: I mean what seems quite obvious Mike as we talk and saying that we are mom-and dad.

00:27:11: it wasn't quite that obvious back in days because obviously your been a celebrity high known musician.

00:27:20: then comes this theme park guy who did family entertainment roller coasters.

00:27:26: I mean, on hindsight it's kind of obvious that we met.

00:27:30: But back in the days... The perception was not at all the same.

00:27:33: no?

00:27:33: No!

00:27:33: I

00:27:34: think people thought were nuts.

00:27:37: You're running a family amusement park and this guy who is in a boy band And kinda on TV and stuff like this too.

00:27:44: We just decided let's do a horror event.

00:27:45: It sounds insane I have to say.

00:27:49: also i think alot of peopl didn't get it.

00:27:51: A lot ppl tought it wouldn't work.

00:27:55: Also, I said like why are you doing that?

00:27:56: Why would you... You know.

00:27:58: I don't see it..I don't get It but i knew this Would work Like it worked in America.

00:28:04: In america there's a perfect place and stuff And i think u understood also where could go The rest?

00:28:10: we had to convince over time.

00:28:11: But at the beginning no one believed in This idea.

00:28:14: I remember people on the park going What're you doin' Over there?

00:28:17: your makeup and Stuff.

00:28:19: Sometimes People didn't Get the Idea.

00:28:20: Once they came here They totally got it.

00:28:23: But getting them here was a hard part of the whole thing.

00:28:27: Trying to promote this idea, okay how are we going to promote it?

00:28:29: I remember that i wrote my second album called Are You Afraid Of The Dark?

00:28:32: and i remember making this single on purpose To be able to put masks and characters in It That were Here In The Show To say How Do I Get It To My Audience That They Understand About The Horrors Side Of It And Making The Video Very Mainstream?

00:28:46: So It Kindof Was For My Fans And A Mainstream Idea but Putting Some some makeup and stuff in it, but also keeping a kind of sexy and kind of main cast or like twilight kinda thing that the audience could grasp trying to promote idea.

00:28:59: okay what does Marc know about horror?

00:29:01: I think at the beginning.

00:29:02: In Europe people would think about horror.

00:29:05: they'd think on a kermis going through one these houses.

00:29:09: But this is something totally different.

00:29:10: That's to convince people.

00:29:11: show people was long way for us And alot of people not believing.

00:29:17: So do you think that?

00:29:19: You imagined already the product of this.

00:29:21: nowadays

00:29:22: I definitely imagine a project like it was in our days, and i have to

00:29:26: did we succeed.

00:29:27: Have to be honest with you i think What?

00:29:30: because you hear there's a lot you know A lot people come say yes not The same as It Was In The Beginning And Traumatic Is Difference yet is Different.

00:29:36: but People Should Understand That Traumatica Is what We Wanted This Event To Be and There's I Think People Haven't Really Heard That From me, they think somehow I don't know because i've been away from the park for some years and stuff but it has nothing to do with.

00:29:50: we always had a good relationship.

00:29:51: The event is changed...I have gone off to other things But now im back.

00:29:54: And what I see in this event Is that everything we wanted the event To be has gone on to become that.

00:30:03: I mean the houses are spectacular, the designs are spectacular.

00:30:06: we have a costume department you've amazing characters of amazing actors The outdoor areas...the whole area is amazing.

00:30:12: this exactly what We kind of envisioned in the beginning.

00:30:14: as it has become That and um It's a lot of work from your side As well too To get it there but i think its freaking amazing.

00:30:21: if-if we had half Of those stuff back You know five years into when we started..it would be different But you've achieved it.

00:30:28: Traumatic Has gotten to the point where we always wanted them And about, you know taking pieces and working on things to make maybe entertainment or other parts better.

00:30:38: But the basis of the event is what I wanted the event be twenty years ago?

00:30:44: I can tell ya that much!

00:30:46: That's it...I think us both..and i think you got into a very good way.

00:30:49: What do this expect?

00:30:50: I think it's spectacular.

00:30:50: It was amazing.

00:30:52: When we talk about Dramatica ,what are your core assets ?

00:30:55: What for DNA so-to say?

00:30:57: You've obviously been touching.

00:30:59: It has been a family approach, us being mom and dad.

00:31:03: Having our children so to say which we dearly loved... Which we took care about.. Which we celebrated sometimes too long in two late nights but it wasn't like the family approach.

00:31:14: So we have the family feeling.

00:31:15: We are taking care of each other looking after each other Being strong team having division having belief being therapy for most actors escape from their real life.

00:31:27: What else is so special about this dramatic?

00:31:30: because obviously everybody knows you've been American.

00:31:33: There's a lot of american horror, Is there any use?

00:31:37: be anything would make traumatic particularly special apart from just being big family.

00:31:44: other aspects to the brand?

00:31:46: I think i think to the brain.

00:31:48: u definitely coming into world that you can only see for limited time.

00:31:52: I think this doesn't run year-round, you come here and it's... You get a ticket or don't.

00:31:58: And at the moment.. A lot of times we don't get to.... A lot nights are sold out but things like that too!

00:32:02: But if you hear about it, watch movies ,you put into your world That you see for About one month and half then its gone until next year Now how everything is working How everything behind scenes works and how all melts together It when in an event as visitor It just doesn't stop the while you're in line.

00:32:23: The actors are walking up to and talking, too And they actually so good on the streets even between the houses and stuff.

00:32:28: the experience overall is it experienced from the moment You walk into a moment?

00:32:32: You leave like I said at the beginning That you just don't come out of the theming and you go into this theming.

00:32:37: you get to forget about your life Your thinking above themes watching great shows And then you leave and go home back to your normal life again.

00:32:45: I mean,

00:32:46: it lived

00:32:47: the movies.

00:32:49: I believe now because before... You know what?

00:32:51: The difference is that we had some houses but spaces were nothing.

00:32:56: so there was times when you weren't really in theming.

00:33:00: You absolutely in the world a hundred percent of time from beginning to end and you're just in this movie And your living it, that's what we've always wanted.

00:33:10: What else?

00:33:11: I mean taking universal horror nights, freaknights... I'm remembering that you were the master of entertainment That brought so much more.

00:33:23: not only the great vision creativity The filming It was also you let say who brought night time entertainment in terms of vampire, being and shows.

00:33:37: Is this something to you which no other brand is doing the way we do it?

00:33:41: This

00:33:42: is definitely that's different.

00:33:45: The idea was that we wanted events not just through evening with houses but outside But out I felt like wasn't quite over.

00:33:56: You know that.

00:33:57: okay we close the house and closed down things but what about other part of this world?

00:34:01: What about a movie like Blade, what is it about.

00:34:05: This experience where afterwards you get together with friends celebrate in an unusual location when you party to your friend's and see a cast from Twilight.

00:34:19: Celebrate with these people have more exciting and sexy entertainment at evening.

00:34:25: I think we were the first people to do kind of a horror-themed club where everybody can come together and celebrate with their friends in The End Of The Night.

00:34:34: Okay, We just made it through all these houses as well but in this theming And keep entertainment going until late into the night or early morning To be able to follow characters that you could then see on shows Then go meet them at clubs and celebrate afterwards.

00:34:48: Let's make some main character.

00:34:51: uh, whether it was my character or we had the seven sins.

00:34:53: one year which is like some guys and some girls Uh in one of them has gone off to be one of the world's best DJs.

00:34:58: Yeah Lily Palmer Which is amazing?

00:35:00: Um i remember saying okay Let's make this whole cast We have The Seven Sins Was a good example.

00:35:04: They can follow us they see us In the park they have to walk around Okay Then they See Us in A show.

00:35:08: I think I Had a magic Show Back then And then Watched This in the show and then you know what.

00:35:12: They Can Come Meet Us and and Celebrate With Us at the end Of the Evening.

00:35:16: so It Was Like Being in a Movie and hanging out with the main characters.

00:35:19: And that was something I think we did, there were different than most other people.

00:35:23: Why didn't you come up at The Vampires Club?

00:35:25: What year was it?

00:35:27: Obviously We had The Vampire's Club... We had the Forbidden...

00:35:30: I mean

00:35:31: what was Forbidden & what was Vampires?

00:35:34: Do we have like a Mad Scientist lab once as well one year where he has those really weird drinks in Mad Scientists inside?

00:35:40: And but the vampires, vampires theming for me has always been a love of mine.

00:35:44: I loved vampires and whether it's watching The Lost Boys or just watching Blade in there was this glamorous Hollywood feeling to two vampires.

00:35:52: And I remember thinking about taking the nightclubs and vampires and connecting them together just makes sense you know?

00:35:58: You have all these good looking people dressed up nice.

00:36:00: Vampires were always dressed up Nice and going out for the evening and looking for their victims.

00:36:04: that totally fits into whole nighttime theming.

00:36:10: theme and fits completely in a club.

00:36:14: I remember some of my favorite movies watching Dust Till Dawn, they had this bar where everybody was vampires.

00:36:20: on the end you know?

00:36:21: But the whole atmosphere being around a group of cool people like In The Lost Boys...I wanted to be part of that group!

00:36:27: I want to hang out with that group and be a vampire like

00:36:29: them!!

00:36:29: And i thought it's such a cool experience for a club.

00:36:32: They have a bunch of cool people that you kind want to hang out with and be able celebrate it.

00:36:36: With your friends into the early hours in the morning, And then go home when you were ready to go home.

00:36:40: because I remember thinking okay what more?

00:36:43: It was so good in first years That i was like Okay Then leave event looking for something else To do.

00:36:49: You're just having thrilling night.

00:36:51: When get off roller coaster The last thing you wanna Do is sleep.

00:36:54: And then we ended up with

00:36:56: the forbidden, which is forbidden.

00:36:58: Which is a totally different thing for us this year.

00:37:01: but I got to tell you, i think The show what We have now and how We run This Show?

00:37:05: I Think Forbidden Is A Great Location!

00:37:07: It's Amazing.

00:37:07: it has A great Stage We Have Lights You Have A Bigger Audience.

00:37:11: Who Can Be There?

00:37:12: Everybody can Kind of See The Show And I think it's a cool location.

00:37:16: It is something different, not like the Vampires Club was more dark corners where you can meet somebody and have some sort of secret story around that corner with them You know?

00:37:25: That was really dark.

00:37:29: Let us go hang out and meet people.

00:37:31: What

00:37:33: do you prefer?

00:37:34: It's

00:37:34: difficult to say which one I prefer.

00:37:36: The Vampires Club is different, it always has a place in my heart.

00:37:39: location is great.

00:37:40: but i get to be honest.

00:37:41: for the show what we have now and for this singing with the audience getting everybody into this party mode?

00:37:45: I like the forbidden...I think the stage is great.

00:37:48: you can see that artists-everybody feels they're part of the audience.

00:37:51: me as a performer!

00:37:52: I can see from the stage.

00:37:53: everybodys face and draw them in And I love being on that stage.

00:37:58: As a performer I loved the forbidden.

00:37:59: So if you sum it up like at the last point, like Traumatica is what?

00:38:03: It's a family.

00:38:05: Traumaticism.

00:38:06: It's love and taking care of each other being in control.

00:38:10: surrounding scaring people on rollercoaster.

00:38:12: they're always under control but

00:38:14: also

00:38:15: be thrilled.

00:38:16: This is also big part that people can come here have safe experience.

00:38:19: this something in horror feels out-of-control But everything is planned.

00:38:24: Everything is safe no matter what You are not going to... You know your in a safe experience.

00:38:28: At times, it feels not safe.

00:38:30: And that's the cool part which we definitely do with the houses.

00:38:33: sometimes you feel unsafe.

00:38:34: It is safe.

00:38:36: We have great makeup.

00:38:37: The make-up I think Is one of the top things.

00:38:39: what we do here at that

00:38:41: Great music

00:38:42: Don't do anywhere else.

00:38:42: Music is unprecedented.

00:38:44: i don't know Anywhere Else That Has Music Like This?

00:38:45: I Think Where Also The Only People Have Music Like this.

00:38:47: And night club experience

00:38:50: Night Club Experience Show Experiences.

00:38:52: Did They Miss Anything ?

00:38:53: I Think You Have An All Around Package From Beginning to the end.

00:38:59: I think nothing's really missing

00:39:00: eroticism.

00:39:01: It's also part of a poro or at freak shows and stuff.

00:39:05: now.

00:39:06: I'm not another huge fan of The Freak Show.

00:39:08: pop okay?

00:39:09: Yeah,

00:39:09: but this is very American thing.

00:39:12: I don't know if it fits into Europe yet i would say in America freak shows are A big thing.

00:39:17: i mean sometimes people go on tour with their own freak shows And thousands People come see them.

00:39:21: But i'm Not sure if you're ready for that so much Yet.

00:39:23: but i mean You got To try and See what Works and What doesn't.

00:39:26: but i Think We have everything from shows tonight, life to crazy characters.

00:39:31: Sexy characters too out of control moments two clowns to end the world feeling which it feels like right now and And um To this great experience From The beginning till the end.

00:39:44: in if you...and I think

00:39:45: Tonight we're gonna watch Eden.

00:39:46: You haven't

00:39:47: seen what i haven't see yet so excited.

00:39:49: See that?

00:39:49: It's a smaller club experience.

00:39:51: But you-I Think you have really Everything on one place.

00:39:54: you go from being an events Being in these different attractions, watching stage shows outside having great food being with your friends.

00:40:01: Being scared on the streets to be a nightclub To celebrate until the end of evening.

00:40:07: I think everything is here and when you hear it... And how do

00:40:11: we feel about that?

00:40:13: Let me touch upon that quickly.

00:40:15: We're far too long into our conversation but let's talk about the hotel back this year.

00:40:21: Is it something similar to what we did?

00:40:23: Yeah,

00:40:24: I think the hotel is probably one of best experiences definitely because It does touch upon.

00:40:28: What We Did in The Beginning i think its really well done and i Think Its a Really cool kind Of A hat Off To The Original Halzen.

00:40:37: i think it's Really Cool.

00:40:38: It's Different

00:40:39: Than The original halzen Definitely but it's such a great experience.

00:40:41: i think that's the Best Experience there.

00:40:43: And if you haven't seen the Hotel You Gotta See That It's Amazing.

00:40:46: Unfortunately, we are already close by.

00:40:49: So you missed it.

00:40:49: which means next year?

00:40:51: yeah Which means?

00:40:51: You have to buy tickets directly for next year.

00:40:54: Yeah But I think a really touched upon that was cool Cool thing to see.

00:40:59: how much is dramatic?

00:41:00: I mean obviously from the targeting and the audience.

00:41:03: i Mean We Have The Same Audience Base From It's Real Thinkers at Europa Park.

00:41:09: How Much Is Traumatic for europea pike and what is not your bike?

00:41:14: i mean obviously we label it on the twenty one twelve studios.

00:41:18: yeah um do you think that makes sense?

00:41:20: or is it for Europe park event?

00:41:22: Is this for you a twenty-one.

00:41:24: I think totally make sense.

00:41:25: twenty one twelfth is uh... is there, its own kind of box to put this into?

00:41:30: you know because if u have the scroll seekers but he's his own piece of thrill seekers you know so different type of through seeking an i think In this box of twenty one twelve, you're allowed to kind of push the limits a little bit more.

00:41:41: You're allowed too is still Of course Europa park.

00:41:44: but putting into this box where we say okay It's kind of safe place To try new things unexpected things and they kinda pushed the limits A Little Bit More Than You Would.

00:41:53: And Europa Park Totally Makes Sense Because it Is Its Own World.

00:41:56: Thrill Seekers Do Come From The Roller Coasters There And Everything Else But... ...It Also Has This Own Audience.

00:42:01: It has its own fan base that only comes in Dramatic As Well.

00:42:03: So We Have A Mix Of Both I Think.

00:42:05: To Put Into His Own Box I think allows us to push the limits for the future a little bit more, try new crazy things and be able to...to be able To push the whole concept ideas More in this box.

00:42:19: And i think it makes sense For these fans.

00:42:22: It make sense for The Thrillseekers.

00:42:23: That made sense for our fans at Traumatica.

00:42:26: With This Framework of what we have now In twenty one twelve What Traumatic is today Which We've Always Wanted To Be?

00:42:31: Which Means I'm Just Excited Think About What's Possible In This Box For The Future.

00:42:37: We're gonna talk about the future in a second.

00:42:40: I was just leaving the event here at the weekend and somebody came up to me as dramatic as like an ecstasy, do you feel the same?

00:42:47: i'm not talking about drug but talking about this.

00:42:49: no idea get that kind of connection to the drug thing but it makes sense.

00:42:54: ecstacy is great word because ecstasies A label that takes you out of the you know kind of your normal life and allows you to open up your mind To new crazy things happen, right?

00:43:06: I mean And it totally makes sense.

00:43:09: actually word would totally make sense for an event.

00:43:11: It's a Greek and there's a greek.

00:43:12: Actually what if we want look at up its Dionysus like in old Greek God who were like was inviting people to have theatrical play being an ecstasy.

00:43:22: That's where actual weather comes from.

00:43:24: so it's all creek european yet to

00:43:25: be

00:43:26: mythology.

00:43:27: Yeah, to see something that's different than your normal life.

00:43:30: To see something outside of the boundaries of what you normally know would be what ecstasy is right?

00:43:34: To open up... Yeah

00:43:35: well to feel something on your body

00:43:37: yeah!

00:43:38: To open-up your mind to things they've never seen before

00:43:41: and that totally

00:43:42: actually makes sense.

00:43:42: Open-up in my mind as..to see things he'd have ever seen before without

00:43:45: taking truck but getting scared by monsters.

00:43:47: Of course

00:43:48: it's crazy thing.

00:43:48: But I mean by beating super monster but I mean ecstacy The Word.

00:43:51: That why they named a drug.

00:43:52: that because It opens up your mind.

00:43:54: Actually see the word makes sense.

00:43:56: to open up your mind too new experience and things you've never seen before.

00:43:58: I mean that totally make sense guy.

00:44:00: Well

00:44:01: talking about um, Mike a little bit.

00:44:04: Are there anything going back to like?

00:44:07: Um i mean we identified what the usp of Traumatica is.

00:44:10: We we marketed as it truly European.

00:44:15: uh, yeah horror event Have found his own way thanks to you.

00:44:19: bring in the entertainment on stages bringing the guys around who made that happen.

00:44:22: Yeah

00:44:24: Yeah, there's definitely... I mean the European touch on this American idea is what makes us completely different.

00:44:30: Because when you think about shows and things in nightlife and stuff like that too mixing all of it for me a big part was going to France seeing things like Moulin Rouge and Crazy Horse These kind of shows with all these different acts and things in this setting, which I thought was really amazing.

00:44:52: These dinner shows you know i remember going there watching the shows when You go to like crazy horses.

00:44:56: um There's actually a lot of like older people on there.

00:44:58: You know what?

00:44:58: I mean good This is like their normal weekend experience And I'm right thinking this.

00:45:02: so overall entertainment from beginning till thee through The end uh Is something unique and I think we

00:45:08: don't more your box.

00:45:09: Yeah, yeah see no more other box.

00:45:10: things Like this and these kinds of experiences were something unique that I've never seen.

00:45:14: I Think it's definitely inspired a lot of the entertainment here to take pieces from that and put it into this horror setting.

00:45:22: I think European

00:45:22: cabaret is such, you know?

00:45:24: Exactly!

00:45:25: The cabaret looking through keyholes like the little bit of voyeurism or what's around in the next corner... Is there good-looking girl...?

00:45:35: Or is he monster with

00:45:37: half face ripped

00:45:38: off?!

00:45:38: That was

00:45:40: kind

00:45:40: of a mix all those things.

00:45:41: I

00:45:41: never thought about it before but yeah.

00:45:44: You're not sure whats gonna happen next In any aspect,

00:45:48: whether

00:45:48: it's horror or what is happening in the next room.

00:45:51: It's a thrill like that and I think...

00:45:53: It was nice comparison.

00:45:57: we did go to all of those

00:45:59: night shows.

00:46:01: to almost all of the show.

00:46:03: We did everything, I mean we built a house and entertained people.

00:46:07: you've been an actor.

00:46:08: i saved your life couple times.

00:46:10: Save my life?

00:46:11: I was making movies editing them myself

00:46:14: uh finding actors...I

00:46:15: need an actor today doing makeup.

00:46:17: no it wasn't crazy time talking about yourself.

00:46:22: is there anything which really scares me?

00:46:25: Me?

00:46:25: Yeah!

00:46:27: Anything what scares Mike Tarantino?

00:46:28: Totally this kind of stuff scares.

00:46:30: I mean, you got to be honest with me.

00:46:32: You're afraid

00:46:32: going tonight into America?

00:46:34: Sometimes when i go through a house like a scared shitless man and that's why i started this event.

00:46:38: because of the feeling...I think if i lose it or walk in the houses not being scared wouldn't make it exciting anymore.

00:46:44: but honestly we went though some other houses.

00:46:48: We have two houses which are gonna show people online.

00:46:52: Me & Leon went thru their houses totally normally two houses, and we were scared shitless.

00:46:57: It was pretty funny.

00:46:58: so you get to see

00:46:58: me- We're looking forward for it today.

00:47:00: And

00:47:00: its really funny.

00:47:00: but this is exactly why I do this that i love being scared.

00:47:04: when I watch horror films at home sometimes too I'm scared about them stuff.

00:47:07: This feeling.

00:47:08: what's the feeling of what I love?

00:47:09: The feelings I want to bring.

00:47:10: That's...this feeling..I love this feeling!

00:47:13: It does scare

00:47:13: me!!

00:47:14: I think I love ghosts....I believe in ghosts.

00:47:16: I believe in supernatural things that are unexplained.

00:47:21: I get scared here all the time

00:47:23: Interesting, so let's

00:47:25: one more thing this year.

00:47:26: if someone asked me to spell words in German that's good.

00:47:32: If we're looking back and twenty years of time I mean obviously the event grew extremely to a being the best European horror.

00:47:41: then we achieved quite a lot.

00:47:44: How, how did your life change the last twenty years?

00:47:46: Obviously you had talents which nobody's seen back then.

00:47:50: You'd only been a singer... ...you've been great entertainer.. ..you're being a story writer and editor A filmmaker, entertainer, show consultant, name giver.

00:48:02: I mean,how did your live changed?

00:48:03: And if looking back on yours On your last twenty-years We'll be talking about it lately Do want to go back on stage want to become a singer, how do you look back on your last twenty years?

00:48:17: Twenty years has been the craziest roller coaster ride of my life.

00:48:20: And I remember when i was younger and wanted be rock star all my life... ...and I definitely have achieved that..I would say!

00:48:25: To an extreme level for the good end....for the bad and what is changed in my life and important.

00:48:34: after these hard times behind me where really hit rock bottom , I think needed it change everything.

00:48:41: And I've never been happier in my whole life than I am today.

00:48:45: I have changed a lot of things in my life, left all that crazy rock star party life behind me and now... ...I think that i decided to not be on tour the whole year.

00:48:59: like every day two different cities stuff with those years are behind me.. ..and I want to focus on projects that love that I want to do and that i'm doing things now because I wants to do them, not because I have to.

00:49:12: Back then I was doing a lot of shows cause I need money or whatever...I don't do it

00:49:14: anymore.".

00:49:15: And I think I had different values in my life than before back then.

00:49:21: To return to Traumatica this time is very different experience for me.

00:49:24: being clear on the head seeing what we've achieved.

00:49:27: I experienced totally differently Being on stage.

00:49:28: I feel everything much better.

00:49:31: I am focused and happy with myself being motivated here very different than I was back in the day when I was drinking too much and it totally out of my mind.

00:49:42: And had this kind of fog that I was living through.

00:49:44: now, I see everything clearly have a plan for my life?

00:49:47: Have a great relationship with The Girl Who's Here With Me today which i think is a big part of having being able to go home Being able to leave the stage and everything outside the door and be able to have some time on someone you know they're trust.

00:50:01: where can come down really get away from at all.

00:50:05: The last years, as you know me is what I was living this twenty-four hours a day.

00:50:10: I was leaving the stage, leaving the characters, living... What iIwas doing?

00:50:13: twenty four hours today and never getting away from it because I loved it!

00:50:16: And I think..the balance between that family life and having of view for my future in entertainment longer than just this year okay?

00:50:27: What projects can we work on to grow make bigger and then do year after year after here ummm....what makes sense you know, in the future how can I enjoy being on stage?

00:50:36: Music is different than it was before.

00:50:38: It's not like i could release some music today and it would be a hit.

00:50:41: then we go on tour again.

00:50:42: that makes no sense anymore.

00:50:43: And so being able to choose The right projects and being able To have music Be apart of it No matter what I do.

00:50:51: but having music.

00:50:53: Today Is Not Can't Be My Main.

00:50:55: Okay!

00:50:56: I'm gonna be successful with a hit.

00:50:57: it doesn't Matter if You ever Hit Today.

00:50:58: No one's Gonna.

00:50:59: You Can't Sell Concerts.

00:51:00: Its Very Different.

00:51:01: Everything'S TikTok everything's One Minute Songs But being able to take stuff like, you know, Traumatica.

00:51:08: Which is the combination of everything which I love to do whether it's shows where there's music Whether its entertainment and be able focus a little bit more on things Like what we're doing here

00:51:17: Except partying

00:51:19: Except parting And come one The thing that people can come party with us.

00:51:23: We have great event in our show and i'm on stage and ideas To get people to come and celebrate together.

00:51:29: but It doesn't mean You need to be drunk With me and you can see how much fun I have in the club.

00:51:35: I had a great time till.

00:51:35: yeah, two three o'clock And what i think?

00:51:37: I'm actually better Better at getting the audience to come and have fun with Me.

00:51:40: now that was before.

00:51:42: i'll be there until three o clock In the morning i'll Be singing songs with everybody all night and we'll Have A Great Time.

00:51:46: Yeah But it doesn't

00:51:47: mean That You have To have this obsess of when i started in nineteen ninety nine It Was cool to be drunk and out Of control and things.

00:51:53: Times have changed but The experience is still the same.

00:51:56: How do you?

00:51:57: i Mean on a personal level?

00:51:59: i mean a lot of people ask Where do you get the creativity from?

00:52:05: And I'm having this debate often with Bill McCoy, obviously to reinvent every year for a new... To come up with great stories.

00:52:14: To come out with great characters.

00:52:16: Come up with new music.

00:52:18: What Do You Think For You Is The Secret Of Success When It Comes To Creativity?

00:52:24: Secret of success me!

00:52:26: I just am a creative person and ADHD which i think is strong point.

00:52:32: But I think to be creative, you need to be inspired.

00:52:35: You watch movies and go out there being it like we did when we wanted to do shows going into cabarets Being inspired by other talents watching the latest movies Going around the world seeing maybe other haunted houses and stuff.

00:52:47: I think being inspired is a huge part of being creative And being creative with new ideas.

00:52:52: Do get inspired?

00:52:54: Everybody's talking about AI.

00:52:55: Are getting inspired more in digital worlds or are they getting more inspired daily life?

00:53:02: I'm getting it.

00:53:02: I think digital world is interesting for a little bit of ideas, but i thank you from me creatively as an artist and person by real life.

00:53:10: I Think going places experiences in real quick inspiration doesn't mean that i am.

00:53:16: um For example?

00:53:17: I need to be watching horror films to be inspired a horror show To write a horror.

00:53:22: so for example with my girlfriend somewhere, standing on a beach somewhere watching the sun go down and come up with an really nice romantic storyline idea that I could then put into... ...a show.

00:53:35: Do you know what i'm

00:53:36: saying?

00:53:37: Because

00:53:38: we've had these rock musicals before.

00:53:39: We have love stories in this things And there's- You have to live those experiences To be able to A real life experience.

00:53:45: Give it to the public When you find The heart of the public when you find the Heart Of the story But its always based off her Real Life Experiences.

00:53:54: Be creative and write a good show.

00:53:56: If you're not in that moment yourself to be able to translate it into the audience, what it feels like to be there?

00:54:04: That's great explanation.

00:54:06: I mean

00:54:08: yeah.

00:54:08: And for writing also music i gotta tell ya The best writers of the world have a lot of pain behind them You know.

00:54:12: so these years Of chaos and extreme life even depression all those things are big role if...I Have a lot stuff right about now.

00:54:20: So we don't always see as negative thing definitely become a stronger person, that's my past.

00:54:26: And the past person I was then is definitely not the person I am today.

00:54:31: and all those experience though i can use kind of in my toolbox to be able to write about because I've been there ,I have experienced it all.

00:54:37: .And Then people come relate.

00:54:40: Excellent!

00:54:40: I thought you would be talking so the Mac one campus in Blobson is too beautiful.

00:54:49: I gotta be honest with you on that one.

00:54:50: The Mac One Campus is amazingly creative.

00:54:53: Being there with those people and the people that you just have around, because I'm totally a geek.

00:54:57: I love-I geek out everybody.

00:54:59: But the talent do you have over there from video designers stuff like that?

00:55:02: I can stand talk to them for... I could be.. I think That place is probably most inspiring play if i go and hangout With Those People For A week of the craziest ideas ever Because they're exactly like, but they have so many creative ideas and you have a whole group of these amazingly creative people.

00:55:16: That's a great way to be creative.

00:55:17: those guys it's amazing.

00:55:18: And then all the sudden You're standing in a hall with uh with augmented reality glasses on fighting dragons and stuff.

00:55:23: I mean more inspiring out of that.

00:55:25: i think that is one Of the most inspiring places at all.

00:55:28: So

00:55:28: excellent

00:55:29: definitely?

00:55:29: I think that-that Is game changer idea.

00:55:32: that campus over there and The People that you Have There.

00:55:35: What do you Think?

00:55:36: Why Do We Stand In Our Relationship Twenty Years From Now?

00:55:39: I Mean we Traveled through twenty years.

00:55:42: We have an amazing event, great friendship.

00:55:46: What is your vision on Horror nights as we started them now?

00:55:50: Traumatica what do you see in the next twenty years?

00:55:53: I think traumatic is great and i think that change has been spectacular And it's everything we've always wanted to be under this.

00:55:59: Traumatic.

00:55:59: I think that's a great idea.

00:56:01: Um...and I think of Twenty Years!

00:56:03: What I Think Is Not only You can Always Change Shows Every Year..You Can Always Change The Club Every Year And Stuff.

00:56:09: That'S Okay.

00:56:10: but The incorporation of future technologies into horror I think is going to be something that's gonna Be also for you.

00:56:19: I think what you're developing ideas, which are having in the future technology and What's new?

00:56:25: And trying stuff that people haven't done it.

00:56:26: this direction i think Is Something thats a big part over In the Future.

00:56:32: A lot Of People Will Ask Themselves Right Now Listening To Us Where is Mike's place for the next twenty years, how do you envision that?

00:56:44: My place in my life has been a part of it.

00:56:49: I love this project and also like The Park in general.

00:56:52: so we've worked on other things too not just the Horror Night stuff but many parks have a big place at heart And i definitely want to come back and be involved.

00:57:04: How can i bring entertainment with you me and you together again.

00:57:08: And I think in my head, how am today?

00:57:11: It's very possible that we can really keep it going over the next twenty years.

00:57:15: So are gonna see more of Mike next year on Dramatica?

00:57:18: Absolutely!

00:57:19: We're gonna

00:57:23: meet each other tomorrow to talk about this.

00:57:25: But i'm just like a big kid when all these stuff started back then To come here now and have all these tools and pieces That we could use creating, developing and coming up with new crazy ideas.

00:57:38: And trying to.

00:57:39: maybe we're gonna go to New York.

00:57:40: There's.

00:57:41: the Phantom of Oprah opened a immersive theater.

00:57:45: Somebody, yeah.

00:57:46: The Phantom Of The Opera, Andrew Lloyd Depper opened up an immersive theatre in New York.

00:57:51: so that may be our next trip.

00:57:55: Now I have new idea or easier?

00:57:57: We don't go December because then it is Christmas shopping and after that... That's

00:58:03: really cool.

00:58:04: Immersive thee.

00:58:06: now you put new ideas on my head.

00:58:08: Well, thank you so much.

00:58:09: And I mean we...I think as you thought it's not only technology which is going to change dramatically.

00:58:14: one of my biggest wishes was yours actually twenty years ago like to scale this event to other places.

00:58:20: I mean, you want bring it China back in the days?

00:58:23: You wanna bring it international with never succeeded.

00:58:25: so maybe that's something we should be looking into.

00:58:29: talking about obviously a movie which is quite thrilling.

00:58:33: We had some people already and talking to us but making a dramatic movie.

00:58:37: So i think there are still lots of stuff being achieved In The Pike.

00:58:44: It always gonna be original But I think there's so much more stars to grasp out here.

00:58:52: And somehow we've come to this point where we had a great event and now in my mind, it is still just the beginning for new things like these.

00:59:05: What's up?

00:59:06: so at least we became an IP which is a very difficult thing nowadays.

00:59:09: time absolutely and i think it pretty much everything said.

00:59:13: I mean when you talk about why people should come to dramatically.

00:59:16: We talked about our relationship being mom dad for other people great family really thankful also.

00:59:23: fall the actors fall the people been involved in this amazing event, Um, and I think it was a lovely podcast talking to you about twenty years of Traumatica.

00:59:33: I mean i want To give You the last word before i do my.

00:59:35: uh My hello too my listeners but is there anything else?

00:59:39: Do you wanna mention?

00:59:39: thanks Thanks all The people who worked with us And gave their blood for this project.

00:59:43: It really stood behind it and one Of the biggest reasons why we're still here in This this i say every night on stage Is you know We've only been able to do this and build it over Twenty Years and make it bigger better and greater because All the fans, all of people out there who came year after year and believe in this as well.

01:00:01: As a fan is the reason why we can keep doing it because they are here.

01:00:04: so I just say thanks for twenty years!

01:00:07: A lot those fans that still coming back... Fifteen snuck into the event or something and I come back now twenty years later.

01:00:14: Yeah, it's an amazing.

01:00:15: We have some of the most amazing credible fans And i'm thankful to have all those people who'll come back year after year After Year.

01:00:21: without them we wouldn't even be doing this

01:00:23: and Benny and Bill and you are still alive.

01:00:27: Actually, we're all doing pretty

01:00:31: good.

01:00:34: We survived for twenty years.

01:00:36: Yeah, it feels great actually.

01:00:40: Excellent.

01:00:41: So Mike thank you so much.

01:00:42: this was a great trip down memory lane

01:00:44: for letting me be able to do something

01:00:45: like that.

01:00:46: Twenty years of scream and surprises in a lot of great moments we've shared along the way To everyone listening.

01:00:52: Halloween Horror Nights and Traumatica only exist because of the passion Of the scare actors The artists And of course all of you who come back every year to get scared with us.

01:01:03: Thank You For twenty incredible Years!

01:01:05: And you haven't been too traumatic yet.

01:01:07: Now, you know what?

01:01:09: You're missing.

01:01:10: Come back next year and see it for yourself if your there.

01:01:13: Mike thanks again for being here.

01:01:15: And here's to the next twenty years of

01:01:18: horror.

01:01:18: Absolutely!

01:01:19: Good night and sleep

01:01:20: well.

01:01:20: One presents

01:01:26: The World Beyond Brought To You by Micha Irmak in his Emotion Ease Of Tomorrow.